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good morning thank you for joining us

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here at nasa's kennedy space center in

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florida for today's sts-133

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pre-countdown status briefing for the

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sts-133 launch

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to the international space station

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joining me today is jeff spalding nasa

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test director

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good morning

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and kathy winters shuttle weather

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we'll hear from our panelists and then

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take questions jeff

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thank you and good morning everyone

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and i'm here today to provide you some

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status on where we are on from yesterday

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as you remember we've briefed a

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preliminary plan on some repairs we

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needed to do to try to get into our

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launch countdown today

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the plan as we knew it yesterday was to

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vent down our tank and and remove and

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replace some some parts that we thought

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were faulty on air half coupling on our

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right hand ohms maneuvering system

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pod

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and then do some leak checks and as we

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went through the day yesterday we

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learned that there was some additional

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work that we needed to do is sometimes

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when you get into the job you get a

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little bit smarter and and we did and

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there were some things that we

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because those meetings were actually

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still going on when we were talking

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yesterday there was quite a bit more

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work it turned out that we needed to do

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from a leak check perspective and and

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some of the venting operations that need

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to be done

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as a result of that we're we're a little

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bit down on our timelines that we had

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briefed yesterday and so um the ability

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for us to get in to call the stations

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today for launch countdown is no longer

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available to us so our plan today

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is to go ahead and continue the work

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that we need to do on the the repair and

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then getting back into flight

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configuration on the ohms pod and then

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right now we're going to target a call

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to stations for tomorrow

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for sunday at 1 30 in the afternoon

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which would move our launch date out an

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some of the things that we learned as we

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went along yesterday that that changed

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our plan we found that uh there were

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some we plan on venting down the tank

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and as part of that operation there was

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a some additional venting that had to be

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completed that required some

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configuration of valving

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that caused some uh that needed that we

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needed to get in and actually remove a

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door and a panel and change the

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configuration on some of our valving and

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so as a result of that and some

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additional leak checks

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uh that needed to be done

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some intermediate ones and some

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intermediate pressurizations that we

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hadn't accounted for in our preliminary

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plans

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that just essentially drove our

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timelines out

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thus far we've

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vented down the tanks that we talked

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about yesterday

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both the the intermediate and the final

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ventings

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we've removed the doors and have done

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all of the things that we needed to to

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get into the repair we did remove and

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replace our air half coupling and the

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ground half coupling that we talked

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about yesterday the parts that were

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faulty

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on the tank and we've done some initial

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leak checks on those and also some

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moisture samples and all of those came

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good at this point the initial ones

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i have with me a sort of a

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representation this is

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actually a

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propellant um air half coupling

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and uh but it is very similar to the the

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helium one that we had to repair on the

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vehicle to give sort of a representative

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size and and shape to what what it looks

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uh front part here or the head of it

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where the cage is would represent the

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part that sticks out from the panel the

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servicing panel itself

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that represents the area in which we

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would hook up a ground side

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quick disconnect to it there's a poppet

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inside of here that actually depresses

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when the two are mated and the ground

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hand side would have a device that

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actually goes inside of there to be able

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to push that and depress it and then

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allows the gases or fluids to transfer

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between it as i mentioned this is a

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propellant one and not the helium one

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but again they're very similar in

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function and in what they look like i

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think we also have a couple of slides

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that we can go ahead and show you too to

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give a sort of a representation of where

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they are on the vehicle and orient you

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to to how that looks

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this is the location of where the panel

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is where the air half coupling is that

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we removed and replaced it's on the very

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back of the ohms pod on the right hand

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side down towards the bottom next to the

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nozzle area there and i think we have a

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little closer one up on the next slide

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and that gives a little bit better

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perspective and you can see it's kind of

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up and underneath so um it is above the

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folks heads that are that would have to

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work on that operation uh normally we

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would have um access panels and those

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types of things that are not shown in

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this picture to give us plenty of

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ability to get in there and do that work

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but that's where the panel is located

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and on the next slide that's the panel

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itself and you can see some of the other

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air half couplings that are sticking out

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on there on the lower left-hand side

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is where the the one that we had to

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change out on the helium system that was

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the the one giving us the problems in

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our inability to to finish the

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operations we needed to do to get into

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launch and then we did also take the

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opportunity here overnight uh to remove

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and replace one that was leaking on our

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nitrogen side that was on the upper uh

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right hand side there and we removed and

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replaced that air half coupling as well

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so those operations are actually done

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and let's see is there another slide

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that's sort of a schematic right there

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that shows you the uh the air half

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coupling that i was showing you in my

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hand and and beneath the uh the cage

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part which is the top head

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there's um the poppet itself there's a

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spring there's two seals and also a

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filter that's inside of there

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that and all of the interior of that

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poppet

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is removed the cage and the exterior

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portions that you see there all stay in

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place on the vehicle those are not

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removed but the interior part unscrews

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and all those

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interior pieces come out and those are

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the things that were removed and

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replaced overnight so as i mentioned

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that works all done and behind us and

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the preliminary leak checks look good

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but we do still have some additional

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ones once we get up to flight pressure

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which will give us further confidence

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that that we've got a good repair

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right now we're in the process of doing

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a pressurization this is a an initial

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pressurization of the tanks it's called

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a cheat load and as part of that we will

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bring the pressure up and do some

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additional leak checks

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this is something we hadn't accounted

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talked about they had discussions

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throughout the day and

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learned again that we needed to do this

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normally when we're in configuration to

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go do our final press to flight mass

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we're at a higher pressure than we were

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as a result of this repair since we've

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entered the tanks all the way down to

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ambient we had to come back in and now

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we have to get them up to an

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intermediate pressure before we can go

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and pressurize again to our flight mass

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so that's what we're doing this morning

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and that just started and we'll take

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several hours to get us into the early

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at that point we have a couple of uh

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lines that we need to reconnect and then

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go ahead and we'll start begin to the

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rest of our operation which is the 16

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hour portion of the pressurization to

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flight mass and and we'll get into that

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hopefully later this afternoon or early

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evening and that'll take us through

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tomorrow morning and get us in good

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shape to get pick up the countdown

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tomorrow afternoon at 1 30 as i

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mentioned so right now we look like

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we're on a good path to get there uh

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we'll continue to track and monitor that

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work throughout the day and the night

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to make sure that we can get there and

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as i mentioned our call stations is

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tomorrow at 1 30. uh the

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the earliest hanking time would be at 6

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as that would put us to a new t0 time on

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wednesday of 3 47 in the afternoon for a

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window open and then of course

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about five minutes after that at 352

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would be our targeted t0 time

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we do have both flight day 3 and 4

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capabilities off and on every other day

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throughout the window as we mentioned

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wednesday is a day that has both flight

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day 3 and 4 capability which means

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instead of a 10 minute window we have

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about 3 extra minutes of window in there

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for that so it does give us a little bit

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more margin to get off the ground if we

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would need it on launch day

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right now then launching on wednesday we

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still have up through and including

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sunday so it gives us five days of

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attempts

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to get off the ground and that would

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give us our normal four in five day

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capability that we like to preserve that

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gives us the maximum chance to get off

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the ground on any of our launches so

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that that does still preserve that

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ability and gives us lots of flexibility

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and lots of margin to get off the ground

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um and with that i

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i think we're really confident the team

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has done an excellent job overnight it's

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been a lot of hard work they've they've

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addressed all of the

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issues as they've occurred throughout

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the time as you can imagine there's a

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lot of work that goes into these types

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of things

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and i think we've done a great job and

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we're looking forward to getting into

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the cold stations tomorrow that's it

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thanks thank you jeff kathy

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well it does look like that we are going

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to be having a front come down into the

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southeastern u.s on our new launch day

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with that and also an upper level trough

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that's dipping down in texas we should

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pull in some moisture into florida on

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causing just some concern for a low

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cloud ceiling and also some isolated

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showers in the area we are going with a

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30 chance of ksc weather prohibiting

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launch due to that overall it doesn't

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look like it's going to be any

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widespread phenomenon it just seems that

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it could give us a chance of some kind

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of isolated showers or even possible

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ceiling in the area another thing we're

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watching is tropical storm tomas which

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is down in the caribbean if we go and

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look at the satellite picture you can

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see tomas is going to be is marching

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towards west northwest you see it down

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there

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entering the area the lesser antilles

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and it's marching northwest and going to

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be heading into the caribbean for the

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next five days by launch day we're

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expecting it's

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the hurricane center is forecasting uh

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tomas to be a category

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two transitioning to three around that

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time period south of hispaniola so that

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will definitely be something we'll just

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keep an eye on of course not an

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immediate threat to launch but we'll

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watch it in case it's going to be an

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issue for the srb recovery folks as they

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spend a couple more days

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recovering the srvs after launch day

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and um go ahead and show you the

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forecast from the hurricane center

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tracking the storm um off to the

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northwest if we have that slide there we

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go and you can see that that how it will

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be

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just south of hispaniola by the time we

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get to launch and again a category three

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hurricane it's expected to be by that

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time it was almost a hurricane this

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morning on the latest update so possibly

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in this next update that we'll see in an

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hour from the hurricane center may

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already be a hurricane

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going into our forecast for launch

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looking at our tanking forecast weather

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looks pretty good overall for tanking

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just a little bit breezy we're expecting

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a little bit windier conditions on

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tuesday than we were when we were

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talking yesterday so

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and even northeast winds so it's kind of

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nice that we delayed one day in a way

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because crosswinds were actually

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starting to become a concern for tuesday

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but for wednesday the winds are going to

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be decreasing and discussing up to 15

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knots for tanking just a 5 chance of

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violating tanking constraints just in

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case we do happen to get an isolated

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thunderstorm form over the gulf stream

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but unlikely to occur

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going into our launch forecast we are

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again just concerned about low cloud

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ceilings and isolated showers in the

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area not a big chance for this but we

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dig with a 30 percent chance of ksc

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weather prohibiting launch

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and for srb recovery it was because

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we're expecting some windy conditions

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tuesday so seas are going to be picking

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up out there and so by launch they were

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still expecting five to six foot seas

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out in the srv recovery area but that's

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well within constraints

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for spaceflight meteorology groups

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forecast for our board landing sites in

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the u.s we are expecting very good

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conditions for both edwards and northrop

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not expecting any concerns

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and also for the taos sites weather

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looks very good on launch day as well

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if we do happen to delay 24 hours we

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start to have that front to move down

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through florida on this day we're not

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expecting a lot of weather with this

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front but there could be some isolated

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showers in the area and also again a

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concern for low cloud ceilings

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so with that we do have that slight

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concern for showers and a 30 percent

370
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chance of ksc weather prohibiting launch

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for the abort landing sites in the u.s

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space flight meteorology group is

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forecasting good weather again and they

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are also forecasting good weather for

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all three tile sites on day two

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if we happen to delay 48 hours the front

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should move through florida by this time

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we do expect the winds to get kind of

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breezy behind the front the direction

380
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isn't too bad for us so from zero one

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zero um the launch twin constraints um

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begin around 20 they range from 23 knots

383
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to 34 knots depending on the direction

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from that direction we would get

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concerned if it starts gusting up around

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23 to 24 knots um so with that we do

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have a 20 chance of ksu weather

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prohibiting launch

389
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and again the abort landing sites are

390
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good on day three and the tower sites

391
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are only concern on

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day three oh actually we have good tile

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sites all three days on day three as

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well

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so overall the weather is just a just

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have a little bit of a concern on launch

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day for showers and ceilings in the area

398
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overall it's not going to be a washout

399
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but we do have that 30 chance of ksc

400
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weather paving launch due to those

401
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concerns thank you kathy well no take

402
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questions when the microphone comes your

403
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way please state your name affiliation

404
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and to whom you're addressing your

405
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question i will start over in the corner

406
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bill harwood cbs for jeff

407
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with the timeline as it's laid out right

408
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now is it tight or is it

409
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have you got margin in there to get to

410
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windsteer is there still a challenge out

411
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in front of you we still have margin in

412
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that timeline we got several hours of

413
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margin i believe and so as a result of

414
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that we feel pretty good about getting

415
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back into

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um chris

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nasaspacefight.com i do have an

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estimated time for um tank repress

419
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completion tomorrow morning

420
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we expect or hope that it would be done

421
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somewhere between six and eight tomorrow

422
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morning is our is our

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goal at this point to try to get to that

424
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marcia

425
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questions um

426
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given that you have a flight day for

427
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opportunity for wednesday if you go to

428
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wednesday try to launch would you

429
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definitely try for that flight day for a

430
00:14:06,389 --> 00:14:03,760
rendezvous if you need to yes yes

431
00:14:09,030 --> 00:14:06,399
and is there any sense of even slight

432
00:14:10,550 --> 00:14:09,040
sense of uh secondary relief that you

433
00:14:13,829 --> 00:14:10,560
didn't have to deal with the election

434
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day uh complications

435
00:14:18,150 --> 00:14:16,240
um i i wouldn't say that that there's

436
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relief certainly um i think it gives us

437
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a little bit more breathing room for a

438
00:14:22,949 --> 00:14:20,639
lot of the folks and maybe some other

439
00:14:24,949 --> 00:14:22,959
opportunities um

440
00:14:27,030 --> 00:14:24,959
we always want to make it uh as

441
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uncomplicated as possible for our team

442
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and be able to get them

443
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home in between launches which is what

444
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was our biggest concern and get them the

445
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rest that they need so they can get back

446
00:14:37,829 --> 00:14:36,000
to work so if that

447
00:14:40,710 --> 00:14:37,839
move helps that in any way certainly

448
00:14:42,150 --> 00:14:40,720
that's a that's a good thing

449
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ken

450
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jeff please

451
00:14:49,590 --> 00:14:47,120
um i'd like to know this this additional

452
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work you did was this more invasive into

453
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the ohm's pot than you initially

454
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envisioned and and what is the

455
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difference between this initial

456
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pressurization and the 16 hour

457
00:15:01,829 --> 00:14:59,760
repressurization please the work itself

458
00:15:04,629 --> 00:15:01,839
was not more invasive it was just more

459
00:15:06,150 --> 00:15:04,639
of the work that we needed to do

460
00:15:07,269 --> 00:15:06,160
as i did mention yesterday there was a

461
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there were meetings still going on

462
00:15:11,110 --> 00:15:09,600
developing our plans we had some initial

463
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plans in place that's what we thought

464
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was the scope of the work and we hadn't

465
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fully obviously defined all of that at

466
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that particular point in time we thought

467
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we had our arms around the big nuggets

468
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but there were some substantial things

469
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that we still needed to do that were

470
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defined after our discussion yesterday

471
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the additional pressurization that we're

472
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doing this morning was as i mentioned

473
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because the tanks were vented all the

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way down in order to do the repair

475
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um we weren't starting at a normal place

476
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where we would to get into that pressure

477
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that final 16 hour pressurization so we

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have to get ourselves up to a point in

479
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time where we can get to

480
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the ability to press to that final 16

481
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hour thing later this afternoon so

482
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that's why it took us a little bit there

483
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was more work involved from yesterday

484
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today and it was one of the things that

485
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came out

486
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actually probably while we were talking

487
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yesterday we discovered

488
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um

489
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chris scott part with nasaspacefight.com

490
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for a question for kathy um you

491
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mentioned the um watching the sea states

492
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and the winds out at the srb recovery

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zone is that a i'm a little confused is

494
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that a result of tomas or the frontal

495
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system that'll be moving through for

496
00:16:16,550 --> 00:16:14,800
launch day it's not a can it's not the

497
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storm it's it's the gradient ones that

498
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occur the day before and that's what

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would cause the seas to to

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be up a little bit just six feet i mean

501
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they can certainly work in those

502
00:16:28,230 --> 00:16:26,639
conditions really they start getting

503
00:16:29,269 --> 00:16:28,240
more concerned we get over eight feet

504
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out there and then they start looking at

505
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the wave period

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and direction and then if it's over ten

507
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feet they usually will just spot the

508
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srbs and hold off

509
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mark

510
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can you just clarify uh since you

511
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already did the pressurization

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prior to the initial

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what we thought was going to be called

514
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stations

515
00:16:53,910 --> 00:16:51,759
for this you only depressurize the the

516
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ohms i'm sorry the right ohms helium and

517
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nitrogen tanks right so those are the

518
00:16:59,110 --> 00:16:57,440
only two tanks that you have to re-press

519
00:17:00,629 --> 00:16:59,120
today is that correct

520
00:17:02,230 --> 00:17:00,639
well yes there's there's multiple tanks

521
00:17:03,910 --> 00:17:02,240
within the almost pod but yes it's on

522
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the right-hand side it's those tanks on

523
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the helium side and on the nitrogen side

524
00:17:09,990 --> 00:17:07,199
as well that we had to go back in and

525
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repair and as a result depressurized

526
00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:12,240
and can you refresh me on i think we're

527
00:17:16,390 --> 00:17:13,760
you're talking ultimately flight mass is

528
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close to like 4000 psi uh what that and

529
00:17:19,750 --> 00:17:17,520
what the difference is between that

530
00:17:22,150 --> 00:17:19,760
initial level your start at and how you

531
00:17:24,069 --> 00:17:22,160
you get up what the final number is i

532
00:17:25,909 --> 00:17:24,079
don't know the actual difference between

533
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the two and where we end up finally on

534
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that so we can get that data for you

535
00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:31,750
james

536
00:17:35,590 --> 00:17:33,520
dean with florida today um jeff

537
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hopefully you won't be getting down to

538
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that last attempt on the seventh but

539
00:17:41,990 --> 00:17:40,320
that that does still uh cost you a plus

540
00:17:44,470 --> 00:17:42,000
one day if you get there right you just

541
00:17:46,070 --> 00:17:44,480
talk about um

542
00:17:47,909 --> 00:17:46,080
what that would do to your mission uh

543
00:17:50,470 --> 00:17:47,919
potentially to to not have a plus one

544
00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:50,480
day is it is there any loss of

545
00:17:53,110 --> 00:17:51,840
you know work that you would do or is it

546
00:17:55,029 --> 00:17:53,120
just something where

547
00:17:56,789 --> 00:17:55,039
if something came up you would deal with

548
00:17:59,990 --> 00:17:56,799
it mid mission or just what does it mean

549
00:18:01,909 --> 00:18:00,000
to to not have that when you launch the

550
00:18:03,350 --> 00:18:01,919
plus one at this point's contingency

551
00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:03,360
only all the work is still planned and

552
00:18:07,029 --> 00:18:04,960
defined within the other two evas that

553
00:18:08,789 --> 00:18:07,039
we've scheduled for this mission and you

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know of course we feel good about that

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on orbit things can happen and change

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that's why we we often like to protect

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for a contingency day downstream but um

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i'm certain that they'd be able to

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rework the the schedules to to get the

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maximum amount of things and done on

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orbit

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i also just wondered if you could talk a

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little bit about what the crew is doing

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with this extra couple days

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that they'll spend here um

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you know i'm sure they're

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doing some more stas and whatnot

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what what what else is going on with the

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crew

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normally it's more additional training

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just like you said and they have more

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opportunity to do some of those things

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um often there's a little bit more uh

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relaxation time in there as well i don't

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have

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but they generally they they do like to

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have some of that extra time too just to

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review all of the different things that

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they need to for these flights and these

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missions that's because they're so

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critical and there's so much that they

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often have to do and it does give them

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some extra room time to do that so

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sometimes that does actually um add some

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benefit to them as well

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bill

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just

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strategy would be try to stand down and

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then try two more that's exactly you got

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four attempts out of the rest of the

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window right we have our standard plan

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would be to do that four in five days

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and then of course

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whatever happened along the way would

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dictate you know how that worked out

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are there any further questions

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hi ken kramer for uh space flight

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magazine for kathy is there any chance

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that hurricane is going to be coming up

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here if that uh whether if the launch

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does get delayed well um the models and

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i you know i was looking pretty far out

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and there was a northeast turn at the

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end of some of the models not towards

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florida so much actually more off to the

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east

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so it's always a possibility it will

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depend on the timing when that comes

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into the caribbean and the timing of the

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trough and if the trough puts more shear

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on it before it actually would make a

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move to the northeast so it's something

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we'll watch it's pretty far out right

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now this far out a lot of things can

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happen and so we just we just monitor it

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and as the time comes we'll we'll deal

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with it if we need to and i'll watch it

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for the srb recovery area for the two

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days following launch while they're

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still out there working

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thanks

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that will conclude today's sts-133

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pre-countdown briefing

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events and milestines for the countdown

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will be posted on our webpage at

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www.nasa.gov

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shuttle just to recap the launch for

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sts-133 to the international space

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station now is planned for wednesday

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november 3rd at 3 52 pm with a 1 30 call

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to stations tomorrow afternoon

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which means the countdown clock would

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begin ticking down at 2 pm

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please join us live on nasa television

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today at noon eastern time for the brock

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progress docking at the international

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space station followed by a 2 pm launch